I am most impressed with the King Tigers in pillboxes idea. Presumably, then, you could have Big Bertha artillery and suchlike in it too? Oh, the possibilities...

That's some really really cool stuff

Cool stuff, nice work.

you can stop spaming up the boards with these findings which are basically the same

Why, now that's ironic.

Looks like someone is a bit jealous.

nah i am not jealous, i was just stating something

Of course, but remember now, don't go around stating things that are wrong, okay?

Quote:

Lol!

I think the gate find is great! I was always hoping that there'd be a player specific impassable tile, so I guess this will do for now. Does it work for walls as well?

Mr. Tinkerer does it again! Some interesting and cool stuff you are finding.

I think the ability to place real firepower inside pillboxes is awesome. I'd also increase the graphic scale of the pillbox --- and in this way make real fortified artillery emplacements, bunkers, if you will.

ps - when's everyone going to learn to ignore Balck Evil's posts? (And other griefers as well.) Believe me, it's the best countermeasure.

can you garrison a say.... battleship inside a pillbox? that would be interesting

Man Blackevil, this stuff is amazing what's your problem?

Jeez man, fantastic! Makes me want to fire up the editor again! Maybe I didn't blow my 50 bucks after all...

tink tink tink, that's all I do! lol.

Garrison properties---

All units in an airport are actually "off map". Same for fortresses...

All units at a pillbox are actually in the signle tile area where the pillbox is, so...

-effect; replace object <units in area beneath the pillbox that are not the pillbox itself

airports can have units off map replace a (a plane obviosly)with a unit or a building.

fortressed units replaced with buildings have crashed my game on 2 occasions, so I think it can't be done.

pillboxes with units replaced by waterships fire back at enemy but do no damage, but leave explosions and craters next to the pillbox( unless maybe the unit is really near the pillbox...so if u made an "invisible" pillbox and put battleships in it, any enemy unit approaching it would hear ad see explosions that do no damage coming from "nowhere". Have not tried planes or artillery in pillboxes, but my guess is u would see firing but no damage to enemy units as well.

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Damn that would be cool, the battleship thing,. Should be used in a d-day scn.

SSSI you should hire this guy, he can make your scns better.

(Espiacally the korean campaign, sorry I just didn't like the map design on it)

Where the heck do you get that much time, Ox?

Man, if I had the time I would work on my sampler demo.

The one where u have objects labled, one for each sound, and clicking on them plays that particular sound.

-Also a set of labled objects to sample eviorments w/ 24 objects to crosscheck them with the day/night hour time of day.

-One for graphic effects, with an info one how each works.

-A calmaities section.

-A special section on how the object effect "replace" object can be used.

-And a good section would be on how each "object condition" works, both as a trigger condition or trigger effect.

With your airplanes flying out of a mountain in EE _o0XxX0o_ and your new finds, gave me an idea of "Midway" or something in the Pacific with the Japanese in like caves(pillboxes). It's sucks i can't use some Effects in Scenario Editor, but hey maybe someone can do something like that until I can figure out this problem with Effects Editor.

I can't do it.

The Unfinished House Foundation (with 1 HP) changes into a Pillbox foundation with 1 HP belonging to Player 2, but I can't build anything on top of it.

If I place only the foundation without having a worker give it 1 HP, it just disappears.

Can you be a bit more clear on how to do it?

Here's the deal, Migard...

The house foundation ontop of the piillbox will dissapear and won't form, if....

1. The pillbox has any completion whatsoever.
2. The pillbox belongs to the player 1

steps....

1. As soon as the first house foundation is laid, change the house foundation to a pillbox, the with a .05 second delay, change ownership to another comp player.

2. Build a second house foundation on same exact spot, as soon as the worker starts building and the house foundation has at least 2 hitpoints, give the house 100% hiponts. And then...switch the piillbox back to player 1, then with a small delay(about 0.05 seconds) give the pillbox; unit attribute construction complete 100%.

*DO NOT give the pillbox constrution complete, until it is changed back to player 1.

*Effects; repalce and change ownership have to have effects following it, a very small delay. example... if u change an object or replace it and the next effect is to give it hitpoints(and has no delay), the effect to give hitpoints WILL NOT happen becase of those effect execution times.(same as Empire Earth).

Here is a screenshot of a house ontop of a pillbox, and the pillbox and house are both occupying the same space at the same time!!

ARMOURED HOUSE

House appears actual size. No Graphic scaling was used!
*Perfect house to have if getting frequent visits from the ATF!

Also I would like to mention that a lot of small hard to explain variables exist depending on which civ u r using.

It would be easier to put a tower ontop of a pillbox(gives the effect of garrisoning towers).

When I used england civ, the pillbox was not always able to garrison in the pillbox until the house was destroyed.

Having units garrison and fire from a fountain, a statue, or a car(frozen to be made staionary) would be a lot more fun.

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Thanks. Guess what I did wrong was to not include a .05 time limit for the change of player for the Pillbox Foundation.

I'll try it again.

Can I do this?

A pillbox, you garrison some Neuer Soldats in it. Then replace Pillbox with a house, and the Neuer Soldats (in that replaced pill) will be in the house and able to fire.

No, U have to create the illusion of firing from a house. In this case building a house ontop of(overlapping buildings) a pillbox and having triggers load the military units into the pillbox when the units are near it(task units near pillbox "exists", to pillbox, action; load).

Ok. This will help me alot with my Band of Brothers campaign!